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Romano Prodi – Mortadela – KGB Agent ?????
The latest rumour doing the rounds is that Romano Prodi was a KGB contact in Italy. The same rumours also have it that this was what Litvinienko was meeting Scaramella on the 1st November to discuss, and to hand over papers relating to. This speech was made last week, in the European Parliament, by a UKIP member:
"Mr President, I should like to pay tribute to my constituent, Mr Alexander Litvinenko. Alexander was fearless in exposing the political gangsters that now run Russia, and the creatures of the KGB and FSB that still hold political office in Europe. For his bravery, he paid the ultimate price.
In April, I made two speeches in this Parliament repeating allegations made to me by Alexander that Romano Prodi had been an agent of some kind of the KGB. Alexander told me that the key figure to understanding Mr Prodi’s alleged relationship with the KGB in the 1970s was a man named Sokolov, also known as Konopkine, who worked for TASS in Italy.
Since Alexander can no longer testify to this effect, as he was ready, willing and able to do, I am pleased to provide this service for him posthumously."
But these allegations cannot be dismissed, as the mainstream media is doing.
On April 2, 1978, Prodi and other members of the faculty of the University of Bologna passed on a tip about a safe house where Aldo Moro, the former Prime Minister kidnapped by the Red Brigades, was detained. Bizarrely, Prodi claimed he had been given the tip by the founders of the Christian Democratic Party, contacted from beyond the grave via a séance and a Ouija board. While Prodi thought the word Gradoli referred to a town on the outskirts of Rome, it likely referred to the Roman address of a BR safehouse, located at via Gradoli 96. Later, other Italian members of the European Commission claimed that Prodi had invented this story to conceal the real source of the tip, which they believed to have originated in the Italian extraparliamentary left.So he recieved the whereabouts of a prisoner of a communist group from a seance? Pull the other one. He has something, at least, to conceal.Of course, if he was a spy, how many KGB contacts are there within the European Union? And was he actually a spy? I know that in Blairite Britain the truth is hard to come by, but I believe that we have the right to know. Unfortunately, I can't look in his MI5 file. Where are the documents that Litvinienko gave to Scaramella? And are we currently being ruled by the Russian Mafia? Somehow, I don't think that we'll get answers.
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Prodi slams UK TV networks over spy claim
Reuters Tuesday January 23, 06:38 PM
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi on Tuesday rejected British TV allegations that he had had links to the Soviet KGB and his spokesman said Britain's two biggest television channels had fallen victim to "news piracy".
Both the BBC and ITV broadcast programmes on Monday showing video footage of Alexander Litvinenko, the Russian state security former operative who was murdered
by radiation in London in November, making the claim against Prodi.
The existence of the video-taped allegations, filmed by an Italian prosecutor in February 2006, has long been known in Italy but the charges have been largely considered unreliable by its media.
According to Italian investigators, Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of Litvinenko, persuaded the Russian to repeat on camera the accusation against Prodi which he had heard from former Russian spy, Anatoly Trofimov.
"Trofimov did not exactly say that Prodi was a KGB agent, because the KGB avoids using that word," Litvinenko said, according to a news report on ITV's Web site.
"He said Prodi was 'our man'... a KGB man... and that the KGB, with Prodi, was carrying out some secret, dirty operations in Italy. My understanding was that Prodi was working for the KGB."
The KGB is the acronym for the old Soviet state security apparatus which has since been renamed the FSB (Federal Security Service).
Prodi was on a two-day visit to Turkey when the programmes were aired, but his spokesman issued a statement saying he was stunned British media were running a story which had been "cleared up by the Italian legal system and press".
"I am stunned that news organs which so often are seen as authoritative are lending credence to false news given by odd sources, to people who have already been discredited, to such news piracy," spokesman Silvio Sircana said.
Litvinenko's brother Maxim, who lives in Italy, has told investigators that Litvinenko warned he knew nothing about Prodi and did not have any documents against him.
Prodi has threatened to sue anybody who slandered him concerning the alleged ties to the KGB
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Ex-KGB Colonel Alexander Litvinenko was investigating the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. They shared a deep hatred of President Putin.
"I hate him for his cynicism, for his racism, his lies, for the massacre of the innocents that went on throughout his first term as president," she wrote.
While she was traveling to cover the Beslan school massacre in 2004, she was served a poisoned cup of tea. She fell very ill but survived. She was gunned down last month.
On Nov. 1, it was Litvinenko's turn to be poisoned. Protected by armed guards, he is fighting for his life in a London hospital. He may survive. Then again, he may not.
"I can tell you he's ill. He is quite seriously sick. There's no doubt that he's been poisoned by thallium, and it probably dates back to Nov. 1, when he first started to get ill," Clinical toxicologist John Henry said.
The poisoning is being investigated by Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch.
General Anatoly Trofimov: 'Prodi is our man there'
On April 3, 2006, a British Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Gerard Batten, cited allegations by Alexander Litvinenko that Romano Prodi, former President of the European Commission and currently Italy Prime Minister, had been the KGB's top man in Italy.
While planning his escape from Russia, Litvinenko sought the advice of his boss and long time trusted friend, General Anatoly Trofimov. Batten told the European Parliament that Trofimov advised Litvinenko not to go to Italy because it was a KGB stronghold.
"Don't go to Italy, there are many KGB agents among the politicians: Romano Prodi is our man there," General Trofimov told Mr Litvinenko. Trofimov was shot dead in Moscow in 2005.
According to the EU Reporter, on April 3, 2006, "another high-level source, a former KGB operative in London, has confirmed the story."
"This allegation against a former head of the European Commission is one of the utmost seriousness. It should be thoroughly investigated. The European Parliament should conduct its own investigation," Batten told the MEPs.
On April 26, 2006, Batten repeated his call for a parliamentary inquiry, revealing that: "Former, senior members of the KGB are willing to testify in such an investigation, under the right conditions."
"It is not acceptable that this situation is unresolved, given the importance of Russia's relations with the European Union."
Batten added that the KGB is not an organization one can resign from and pointed to the fact that, as Italy's Prime Minister, Mr. Prodi will have access to the Council of Europe classified information.
Litvinenko has alleged that Mr. Prodi assisted in the protection of KGB operatives known to be involved in the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.
In February 2006, Mr Litvinenko passed the information to Mario Scaramella. Scaramella is a consultant for the Guzzanti Commission which investigates Soviet infiltration during the Cold War.
The Commission has already alleged that Soviet and Bulgarian agents had collaborated to assassinate Pope John Paul II.
Mario Scaramella met Litvinenko in London the day he was poisoned to discuss new information about Anna Politkovskaya's murder.
Prodi was Italian Prime Minister from 1996 to 1998. In October 1996, British intelligence informed Rome about allegations that 261 Italians had been operating as spies for the Soviet Union for decades.
In June 2006, Mr Prodi said that he had never been told about these allegations. However, his Defense Minister said that he had informed him.
On Monday, Mr. Pollari, the head of the Italian military intelligence agency (SISMI), and the chiefs of the civilian secret service agencies were removed.
"After a few years these positions of delicate responsibility must find their natural rotation," Premier Romano Prodi said.
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Prodi’s comradeship with the spoiled class of Italian capitalism began in the 1980s when he was president of the state holding company, IRI. He was the man charged with privatizing the state-owned industries. He is the one who sat for two years at the negotiating table with Ford when the American company was willing to pay fair market price for the state racing-stable, Alfa Romeo. He’s the man who tipped-off Gianni Agnelli at the 11th hour, signing a deal for a price well below market price, a price that Fiat never even paid.
During Prodi’s stint at IRI, he also tried to sell the state-owned food conglomerate SME to another one of his high profile bosom buddies, the industrialist Carlo De Benedetti. Only a few months earlier Heinz had tried to pay three times the amount that De Benedetti was offering, but had been told my Prodi that SME wasn’t for sale. When the then Prime Minister Bettino Craxi got word of the deal with De Benedetti, he asked his friend, Silvio Berlusconi, to make an offer. Berlusconi didn’t even want to buy SME, but Craxi convinced him to make an offer because the prime minister couldn’t bear to stand by and watch as Prodi sold off all the state assets to his friends at bargain basement prices. SME was eventually dismantled and sold to other buyers, However, the case ended up in the courts and irony would have it that instead of De Benedetti and Prodi occupying the seat of the accused, that seat was assigned to Silvio Berlusconi. Mr. Berlusconi was, of course, eventually acquitted, but that was just one of the many cases of persecution brought against him, the purpose of which was to discourage his participation in politics.
Nonetheless, the skeletons in Romano Prodi’s closet go well beyond bad business practices. During the 1970s Prodi admitted to spending an evening with friends consulting a Ouiji board. During the séance the board “revealed” that kidnapped Prime Minister Aldo Moro was being held in a place called Gradoli. It was later discovered, after Moro’s death, that he had been held, not in the town of Gradoli, but in an apartment in a Roman street called Via Gradoli. Unless you believe in the power of Ouiji boards, this means that the former president of the European Union and the candidate for the premiership of Italy not only knew where the Red Brigades were hiding Aldo Moro, but with his action, he was actually tipping off the terrorists to the fact that their hiding place was no longer secret!
Romano Prodi’s red comradeship took him to even higher places. During the coup d’état in the Soviet Union in 1991, in an interview with “Il Corriere della Sera”, Prodi boasted that he wasn’t at all surprised since the author of the coup, Vladimir Kriutshiev, was a personal friend of his. The coup fortunately failed, but had it succeeded, it would have meant the squashing of the democratic forces that were just beginning to blossom. For the record, Mr. Kriutshiev was the last leader of the Soviet KGB from 1988 to 1991.
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Prodi and democracy
In an interview with the German weekly Die Zeit, partially translated and reprinted by John Rosenthal on Transatlantic Intelligencer, the new Italian Prime Minister, Romano Prodi explained his views on modern Italian politics and the Italian electorate.
It seems that the narrowness of his victory rankles with Signor Prodi and his views on the Italian people are just a shade on the bitter side. According to him Italy under Berlusconi became post-democratic with the people enslaved by the TV channels owned by Mediaset, of which Berlusconi is not the owner but the principal shareholder.
What precisely is Prodi’s evidence for this terrible state of affairs? Why, the fact that certain groups voted for him in smaller proportion than they did for his rival. Clearly, there was brainwashing at work there.
“Die Zeit: The American journalist Alexander Stille writes that Berlusconi created his own voters with his television channels.
Prodi: That's right. And that is the post-democratic aspect of Berlusconi… In these elections, almost 70% of academics voted for me. 70 percent! Among women between 35 and 55, I received fewer votes, maybe (laughs) because I am not so sexy. But in this age group, I had 11% more voters among people with active careers than among housewives.
Die Zeit: …who obviously watch more Berlusconi-television.
Prodi: The less time people spend before the television, the more likely they are to vote for the center-left. That is the mathematical law of post-democracy.”
QED. People should not be allowed to watch the TV channel of their choice (and, as a matter of fact, some of them may have been watching one of the three Italian state owned RAI network) and professors, particularly if they are left-wing ought to be given the right to choose the government of their country with no recourse to anyone else’s opinions.
The really surprising thing is that Prodi was such a completely useless Commission President. The man is made for that job, I should have thought.
BTW When Prodi says '70% of the academics' ('Akademiker') he means not university teachers but 70% of all graduates. He's implying that he's so intellectual that women aged 35-55 who haven't bothered with a pseudo-masters degree in 'Faulkner, Fellini and Feminism' don't find him 'sexy'; they're not 'centre-left' (as they ought to be) because they watch too much tv. And as for double-parkers, dropping off their kids and loading their shopping - those classic subversive right-wing revisionists, equivalent to tax evaders: confiscate their votes!
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Romano Prodi – Mortadela – KGB Agent ?????
The latest rumour doing the rounds is that Romano Prodi was a KGB contact in Italy. The same rumours also have it that this was what Litvinienko was meeting Scaramella on the 1st November to discuss, and to hand over papers relating to. This speech was made last week, in the European Parliament, by a UKIP member:
"Mr President, I should like to pay tribute to my constituent, Mr Alexander Litvinenko. Alexander was fearless in exposing the political gangsters that now run Russia, and the creatures of the KGB and FSB that still hold political office in Europe. For his bravery, he paid the ultimate price.
In April, I made two speeches in this Parliament repeating allegations made to me by Alexander that Romano Prodi had been an agent of some kind of the KGB. Alexander told me that the key figure to understanding Mr Prodi’s alleged relationship with the KGB in the 1970s was a man named Sokolov, also known as Konopkine, who worked for TASS in Italy.
Since Alexander can no longer testify to this effect, as he was ready, willing and able to do, I am pleased to provide this service for him posthumously."
But these allegations cannot be dismissed, as the mainstream media is doing.
On April 2, 1978, Prodi and other members of the faculty of the University of Bologna passed on a tip about a safe house where Aldo Moro, the former Prime Minister kidnapped by the Red Brigades, was detained. Bizarrely, Prodi claimed he had been given the tip by the founders of the Christian Democratic Party, contacted from beyond the grave via a séance and a Ouija board. While Prodi thought the word Gradoli referred to a town on the outskirts of Rome, it likely referred to the Roman address of a BR safehouse, located at via Gradoli 96. Later, other Italian members of the European Commission claimed that Prodi had invented this story to conceal the real source of the tip, which they believed to have originated in the Italian extraparliamentary left.So he recieved the whereabouts of a prisoner of a communist group from a seance? Pull the other one. He has something, at least, to conceal.Of course, if he was a spy, how many KGB contacts are there within the European Union? And was he actually a spy? I know that in Blairite Britain the truth is hard to come by, but I believe that we have the right to know. Unfortunately, I can't look in his MI5 file. Where are the documents that Litvinienko gave to Scaramella? And are we currently being ruled by the Russian Mafia? Somehow, I don't think that we'll get answers.
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Prodi slams UK TV networks over spy claim
Reuters Tuesday January 23, 06:38 PM
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi on Tuesday rejected British TV allegations that he had had links to the Soviet KGB and his spokesman said Britain's two biggest television channels had fallen victim to "news piracy".
Both the BBC and ITV broadcast programmes on Monday showing video footage of Alexander Litvinenko, the Russian state security former operative who was murdered
by radiation in London in November, making the claim against Prodi.
The existence of the video-taped allegations, filmed by an Italian prosecutor in February 2006, has long been known in Italy but the charges have been largely considered unreliable by its media.
According to Italian investigators, Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of Litvinenko, persuaded the Russian to repeat on camera the accusation against Prodi which he had heard from former Russian spy, Anatoly Trofimov.
"Trofimov did not exactly say that Prodi was a KGB agent, because the KGB avoids using that word," Litvinenko said, according to a news report on ITV's Web site.
"He said Prodi was 'our man'... a KGB man... and that the KGB, with Prodi, was carrying out some secret, dirty operations in Italy. My understanding was that Prodi was working for the KGB."
The KGB is the acronym for the old Soviet state security apparatus which has since been renamed the FSB (Federal Security Service).
Prodi was on a two-day visit to Turkey when the programmes were aired, but his spokesman issued a statement saying he was stunned British media were running a story which had been "cleared up by the Italian legal system and press".
"I am stunned that news organs which so often are seen as authoritative are lending credence to false news given by odd sources, to people who have already been discredited, to such news piracy," spokesman Silvio Sircana said.
Litvinenko's brother Maxim, who lives in Italy, has told investigators that Litvinenko warned he knew nothing about Prodi and did not have any documents against him.
Prodi has threatened to sue anybody who slandered him concerning the alleged ties to the KGB
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Ex-KGB Colonel Alexander Litvinenko was investigating the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. They shared a deep hatred of President Putin.
"I hate him for his cynicism, for his racism, his lies, for the massacre of the innocents that went on throughout his first term as president," she wrote.
While she was traveling to cover the Beslan school massacre in 2004, she was served a poisoned cup of tea. She fell very ill but survived. She was gunned down last month.
On Nov. 1, it was Litvinenko's turn to be poisoned. Protected by armed guards, he is fighting for his life in a London hospital. He may survive. Then again, he may not.
"I can tell you he's ill. He is quite seriously sick. There's no doubt that he's been poisoned by thallium, and it probably dates back to Nov. 1, when he first started to get ill," Clinical toxicologist John Henry said.
The poisoning is being investigated by Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch.
General Anatoly Trofimov: 'Prodi is our man there'
On April 3, 2006, a British Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Gerard Batten, cited allegations by Alexander Litvinenko that Romano Prodi, former President of the European Commission and currently Italy Prime Minister, had been the KGB's top man in Italy.
While planning his escape from Russia, Litvinenko sought the advice of his boss and long time trusted friend, General Anatoly Trofimov. Batten told the European Parliament that Trofimov advised Litvinenko not to go to Italy because it was a KGB stronghold.
"Don't go to Italy, there are many KGB agents among the politicians: Romano Prodi is our man there," General Trofimov told Mr Litvinenko. Trofimov was shot dead in Moscow in 2005.
According to the EU Reporter, on April 3, 2006, "another high-level source, a former KGB operative in London, has confirmed the story."
"This allegation against a former head of the European Commission is one of the utmost seriousness. It should be thoroughly investigated. The European Parliament should conduct its own investigation," Batten told the MEPs.
On April 26, 2006, Batten repeated his call for a parliamentary inquiry, revealing that: "Former, senior members of the KGB are willing to testify in such an investigation, under the right conditions."
"It is not acceptable that this situation is unresolved, given the importance of Russia's relations with the European Union."
Batten added that the KGB is not an organization one can resign from and pointed to the fact that, as Italy's Prime Minister, Mr. Prodi will have access to the Council of Europe classified information.
Litvinenko has alleged that Mr. Prodi assisted in the protection of KGB operatives known to be involved in the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.
In February 2006, Mr Litvinenko passed the information to Mario Scaramella. Scaramella is a consultant for the Guzzanti Commission which investigates Soviet infiltration during the Cold War.
The Commission has already alleged that Soviet and Bulgarian agents had collaborated to assassinate Pope John Paul II.
Mario Scaramella met Litvinenko in London the day he was poisoned to discuss new information about Anna Politkovskaya's murder.
Prodi was Italian Prime Minister from 1996 to 1998. In October 1996, British intelligence informed Rome about allegations that 261 Italians had been operating as spies for the Soviet Union for decades.
In June 2006, Mr Prodi said that he had never been told about these allegations. However, his Defense Minister said that he had informed him.
On Monday, Mr. Pollari, the head of the Italian military intelligence agency (SISMI), and the chiefs of the civilian secret service agencies were removed.
"After a few years these positions of delicate responsibility must find their natural rotation," Premier Romano Prodi said.
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Prodi’s comradeship with the spoiled class of Italian capitalism began in the 1980s when he was president of the state holding company, IRI. He was the man charged with privatizing the state-owned industries. He is the one who sat for two years at the negotiating table with Ford when the American company was willing to pay fair market price for the state racing-stable, Alfa Romeo. He’s the man who tipped-off Gianni Agnelli at the 11th hour, signing a deal for a price well below market price, a price that Fiat never even paid.
During Prodi’s stint at IRI, he also tried to sell the state-owned food conglomerate SME to another one of his high profile bosom buddies, the industrialist Carlo De Benedetti. Only a few months earlier Heinz had tried to pay three times the amount that De Benedetti was offering, but had been told my Prodi that SME wasn’t for sale. When the then Prime Minister Bettino Craxi got word of the deal with De Benedetti, he asked his friend, Silvio Berlusconi, to make an offer. Berlusconi didn’t even want to buy SME, but Craxi convinced him to make an offer because the prime minister couldn’t bear to stand by and watch as Prodi sold off all the state assets to his friends at bargain basement prices. SME was eventually dismantled and sold to other buyers, However, the case ended up in the courts and irony would have it that instead of De Benedetti and Prodi occupying the seat of the accused, that seat was assigned to Silvio Berlusconi. Mr. Berlusconi was, of course, eventually acquitted, but that was just one of the many cases of persecution brought against him, the purpose of which was to discourage his participation in politics.
Nonetheless, the skeletons in Romano Prodi’s closet go well beyond bad business practices. During the 1970s Prodi admitted to spending an evening with friends consulting a Ouiji board. During the séance the board “revealed” that kidnapped Prime Minister Aldo Moro was being held in a place called Gradoli. It was later discovered, after Moro’s death, that he had been held, not in the town of Gradoli, but in an apartment in a Roman street called Via Gradoli. Unless you believe in the power of Ouiji boards, this means that the former president of the European Union and the candidate for the premiership of Italy not only knew where the Red Brigades were hiding Aldo Moro, but with his action, he was actually tipping off the terrorists to the fact that their hiding place was no longer secret!
Romano Prodi’s red comradeship took him to even higher places. During the coup d’état in the Soviet Union in 1991, in an interview with “Il Corriere della Sera”, Prodi boasted that he wasn’t at all surprised since the author of the coup, Vladimir Kriutshiev, was a personal friend of his. The coup fortunately failed, but had it succeeded, it would have meant the squashing of the democratic forces that were just beginning to blossom. For the record, Mr. Kriutshiev was the last leader of the Soviet KGB from 1988 to 1991.
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Prodi and democracy
In an interview with the German weekly Die Zeit, partially translated and reprinted by John Rosenthal on Transatlantic Intelligencer, the new Italian Prime Minister, Romano Prodi explained his views on modern Italian politics and the Italian electorate.
It seems that the narrowness of his victory rankles with Signor Prodi and his views on the Italian people are just a shade on the bitter side. According to him Italy under Berlusconi became post-democratic with the people enslaved by the TV channels owned by Mediaset, of which Berlusconi is not the owner but the principal shareholder.
What precisely is Prodi’s evidence for this terrible state of affairs? Why, the fact that certain groups voted for him in smaller proportion than they did for his rival. Clearly, there was brainwashing at work there.
“Die Zeit: The American journalist Alexander Stille writes that Berlusconi created his own voters with his television channels.
Prodi: That's right. And that is the post-democratic aspect of Berlusconi… In these elections, almost 70% of academics voted for me. 70 percent! Among women between 35 and 55, I received fewer votes, maybe (laughs) because I am not so sexy. But in this age group, I had 11% more voters among people with active careers than among housewives.
Die Zeit: …who obviously watch more Berlusconi-television.
Prodi: The less time people spend before the television, the more likely they are to vote for the center-left. That is the mathematical law of post-democracy.”
QED. People should not be allowed to watch the TV channel of their choice (and, as a matter of fact, some of them may have been watching one of the three Italian state owned RAI network) and professors, particularly if they are left-wing ought to be given the right to choose the government of their country with no recourse to anyone else’s opinions.
The really surprising thing is that Prodi was such a completely useless Commission President. The man is made for that job, I should have thought.
BTW When Prodi says '70% of the academics' ('Akademiker') he means not university teachers but 70% of all graduates. He's implying that he's so intellectual that women aged 35-55 who haven't bothered with a pseudo-masters degree in 'Faulkner, Fellini and Feminism' don't find him 'sexy'; they're not 'centre-left' (as they ought to be) because they watch too much tv. And as for double-parkers, dropping off their kids and loading their shopping - those classic subversive right-wing revisionists, equivalent to tax evaders: confiscate their votes! |
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Romano Prodi – Mortadela – KGB Agent ?????
The latest rumour doing the rounds is that Romano Prodi was a KGB contact in Italy. The same rumours also have it that this was what Litvinienko was meeting Scaramella on the 1st November to discuss, and to hand over papers relating to. This speech was made last week, in the European Parliament, by a UKIP member:
"Mr President, I should like to pay tribute to my constituent, Mr Alexander Litvinenko. Alexander was fearless in exposing the political gangsters that now run Russia, and the creatures of the KGB and FSB that still hold political office in Europe. For his bravery, he paid the ultimate price.
In April, I made two speeches in this Parliament repeating allegations made to me by Alexander that Romano Prodi had been an agent of some kind of the KGB. Alexander told me that the key figure to understanding Mr Prodi’s alleged relationship with the KGB in the 1970s was a man named Sokolov, also known as Konopkine, who worked for TASS in Italy.
Since Alexander can no longer testify to this effect, as he was ready, willing and able to do, I am pleased to provide this service for him posthumously."
But these allegations cannot be dismissed, as the mainstream media is doing.
On April 2, 1978, Prodi and other members of the faculty of the University of Bologna passed on a tip about a safe house where Aldo Moro, the former Prime Minister kidnapped by the Red Brigades, was detained. Bizarrely, Prodi claimed he had been given the tip by the founders of the Christian Democratic Party, contacted from beyond the grave via a séance and a Ouija board. While Prodi thought the word Gradoli referred to a town on the outskirts of Rome, it likely referred to the Roman address of a BR safehouse, located at via Gradoli 96. Later, other Italian members of the European Commission claimed that Prodi had invented this story to conceal the real source of the tip, which they believed to have originated in the Italian extraparliamentary left.So he recieved the whereabouts of a prisoner of a communist group from a seance? Pull the other one. He has something, at least, to conceal.Of course, if he was a spy, how many KGB contacts are there within the European Union? And was he actually a spy? I know that in Blairite Britain the truth is hard to come by, but I believe that we have the right to know. Unfortunately, I can't look in his MI5 file. Where are the documents that Litvinienko gave to Scaramella? And are we currently being ruled by the Russian Mafia? Somehow, I don't think that we'll get answers.
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Prodi slams UK TV networks over spy claim
Reuters Tuesday January 23, 06:38 PM
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi on Tuesday rejected British TV allegations that he had had links to the Soviet KGB and his spokesman said Britain's two biggest television channels had fallen victim to "news piracy".
Both the BBC and ITV broadcast programmes on Monday showing video footage of Alexander Litvinenko, the Russian state security former operative who was murdered
by radiation in London in November, making the claim against Prodi.
The existence of the video-taped allegations, filmed by an Italian prosecutor in February 2006, has long been known in Italy but the charges have been largely considered unreliable by its media.
According to Italian investigators, Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of Litvinenko, persuaded the Russian to repeat on camera the accusation against Prodi which he had heard from former Russian spy, Anatoly Trofimov.
"Trofimov did not exactly say that Prodi was a KGB agent, because the KGB avoids using that word," Litvinenko said, according to a news report on ITV's Web site.
"He said Prodi was 'our man'... a KGB man... and that the KGB, with Prodi, was carrying out some secret, dirty operations in Italy. My understanding was that Prodi was working for the KGB."
The KGB is the acronym for the old Soviet state security apparatus which has since been renamed the FSB (Federal Security Service).
Prodi was on a two-day visit to Turkey when the programmes were aired, but his spokesman issued a statement saying he was stunned British media were running a story which had been "cleared up by the Italian legal system and press".
"I am stunned that news organs which so often are seen as authoritative are lending credence to false news given by odd sources, to people who have already been discredited, to such news piracy," spokesman Silvio Sircana said.
Litvinenko's brother Maxim, who lives in Italy, has told investigators that Litvinenko warned he knew nothing about Prodi and did not have any documents against him.
Prodi has threatened to sue anybody who slandered him concerning the alleged ties to the KGB
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Ex-KGB Colonel Alexander Litvinenko was investigating the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. They shared a deep hatred of President Putin.
"I hate him for his cynicism, for his racism, his lies, for the massacre of the innocents that went on throughout his first term as president," she wrote.
While she was traveling to cover the Beslan school massacre in 2004, she was served a poisoned cup of tea. She fell very ill but survived. She was gunned down last month.
On Nov. 1, it was Litvinenko's turn to be poisoned. Protected by armed guards, he is fighting for his life in a London hospital. He may survive. Then again, he may not.
"I can tell you he's ill. He is quite seriously sick. There's no doubt that he's been poisoned by thallium, and it probably dates back to Nov. 1, when he first started to get ill," Clinical toxicologist John Henry said.
The poisoning is being investigated by Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch.
General Anatoly Trofimov: 'Prodi is our man there'
On April 3, 2006, a British Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Gerard Batten, cited allegations by Alexander Litvinenko that Romano Prodi, former President of the European Commission and currently Italy Prime Minister, had been the KGB's top man in Italy.
While planning his escape from Russia, Litvinenko sought the advice of his boss and long time trusted friend, General Anatoly Trofimov. Batten told the European Parliament that Trofimov advised Litvinenko not to go to Italy because it was a KGB stronghold.
"Don't go to Italy, there are many KGB agents among the politicians: Romano Prodi is our man there," General Trofimov told Mr Litvinenko. Trofimov was shot dead in Moscow in 2005.
According to the EU Reporter, on April 3, 2006, "another high-level source, a former KGB operative in London, has confirmed the story."
"This allegation against a former head of the European Commission is one of the utmost seriousness. It should be thoroughly investigated. The European Parliament should conduct its own investigation," Batten told the MEPs.
On April 26, 2006, Batten repeated his call for a parliamentary inquiry, revealing that: "Former, senior members of the KGB are willing to testify in such an investigation, under the right conditions."
"It is not acceptable that this situation is unresolved, given the importance of Russia's relations with the European Union."
Batten added that the KGB is not an organization one can resign from and pointed to the fact that, as Italy's Prime Minister, Mr. Prodi will have access to the Council of Europe classified information.
Litvinenko has alleged that Mr. Prodi assisted in the protection of KGB operatives known to be involved in the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.
In February 2006, Mr Litvinenko passed the information to Mario Scaramella. Scaramella is a consultant for the Guzzanti Commission which investigates Soviet infiltration during the Cold War.
The Commission has already alleged that Soviet and Bulgarian agents had collaborated to assassinate Pope John Paul II.
Mario Scaramella met Litvinenko in London the day he was poisoned to discuss new information about Anna Politkovskaya's murder.
Prodi was Italian Prime Minister from 1996 to 1998. In October 1996, British intelligence informed Rome about allegations that 261 Italians had been operating as spies for the Soviet Union for decades.
In June 2006, Mr Prodi said that he had never been told about these allegations. However, his Defense Minister said that he had informed him.
On Monday, Mr. Pollari, the head of the Italian military intelligence agency (SISMI), and the chiefs of the civilian secret service agencies were removed.
"After a few years these positions of delicate responsibility must find their natural rotation," Premier Romano Prodi said.
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Prodi’s comradeship with the spoiled class of Italian capitalism began in the 1980s when he was president of the state holding company, IRI. He was the man charged with privatizing the state-owned industries. He is the one who sat for two years at the negotiating table with Ford when the American company was willing to pay fair market price for the state racing-stable, Alfa Romeo. He’s the man who tipped-off Gianni Agnelli at the 11th hour, signing a deal for a price well below market price, a price that Fiat never even paid.
During Prodi’s stint at IRI, he also tried to sell the state-owned food conglomerate SME to another one of his high profile bosom buddies, the industrialist Carlo De Benedetti. Only a few months earlier Heinz had tried to pay three times the amount that De Benedetti was offering, but had been told my Prodi that SME wasn’t for sale. When the then Prime Minister Bettino Craxi got word of the deal with De Benedetti, he asked his friend, Silvio Berlusconi, to make an offer. Berlusconi didn’t even want to buy SME, but Craxi convinced him to make an offer because the prime minister couldn’t bear to stand by and watch as Prodi sold off all the state assets to his friends at bargain basement prices. SME was eventually dismantled and sold to other buyers, However, the case ended up in the courts and irony would have it that instead of De Benedetti and Prodi occupying the seat of the accused, that seat was assigned to Silvio Berlusconi. Mr. Berlusconi was, of course, eventually acquitted, but that was just one of the many cases of persecution brought against him, the purpose of which was to discourage his participation in politics.
Nonetheless, the skeletons in Romano Prodi’s closet go well beyond bad business practices. During the 1970s Prodi admitted to spending an evening with friends consulting a Ouiji board. During the séance the board “revealed” that kidnapped Prime Minister Aldo Moro was being held in a place called Gradoli. It was later discovered, after Moro’s death, that he had been held, not in the town of Gradoli, but in an apartment in a Roman street called Via Gradoli. Unless you believe in the power of Ouiji boards, this means that the former president of the European Union and the candidate for the premiership of Italy not only knew where the Red Brigades were hiding Aldo Moro, but with his action, he was actually tipping off the terrorists to the fact that their hiding place was no longer secret!
Romano Prodi’s red comradeship took him to even higher places. During the coup d’état in the Soviet Union in 1991, in an interview with “Il Corriere della Sera”, Prodi boasted that he wasn’t at all surprised since the author of the coup, Vladimir Kriutshiev, was a personal friend of his. The coup fortunately failed, but had it succeeded, it would have meant the squashing of the democratic forces that were just beginning to blossom. For the record, Mr. Kriutshiev was the last leader of the Soviet KGB from 1988 to 1991.
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Prodi and democracy
In an interview with the German weekly Die Zeit, partially translated and reprinted by John Rosenthal on Transatlantic Intelligencer, the new Italian Prime Minister, Romano Prodi explained his views on modern Italian politics and the Italian electorate.
It seems that the narrowness of his victory rankles with Signor Prodi and his views on the Italian people are just a shade on the bitter side. According to him Italy under Berlusconi became post-democratic with the people enslaved by the TV channels owned by Mediaset, of which Berlusconi is not the owner but the principal shareholder.
What precisely is Prodi’s evidence for this terrible state of affairs? Why, the fact that certain groups voted for him in smaller proportion than they did for his rival. Clearly, there was brainwashing at work there.
“Die Zeit: The American journalist Alexander Stille writes that Berlusconi created his own voters with his television channels.
Prodi: That's right. And that is the post-democratic aspect of Berlusconi… In these elections, almost 70% of academics voted for me. 70 percent! Among women between 35 and 55, I received fewer votes, maybe (laughs) because I am not so sexy. But in this age group, I had 11% more voters among people with active careers than among housewives.
Die Zeit: …who obviously watch more Berlusconi-television.
Prodi: The less time people spend before the television, the more likely they are to vote for the center-left. That is the mathematical law of post-democracy.”
QED. People should not be allowed to watch the TV channel of their choice (and, as a matter of fact, some of them may have been watching one of the three Italian state owned RAI network) and professors, particularly if they are left-wing ought to be given the right to choose the government of their country with no recourse to anyone else’s opinions.
The really surprising thing is that Prodi was such a completely useless Commission President. The man is made for that job, I should have thought.
BTW When Prodi says '70% of the academics' ('Akademiker') he means not university teachers but 70% of all graduates. He's implying that he's so intellectual that women aged 35-55 who haven't bothered with a pseudo-masters degree in 'Faulkner, Fellini and Feminism' don't find him 'sexy'; they're not 'centre-left' (as they ought to be) because they watch too much tv. And as for double-parkers, dropping off their kids and loading their shopping - those classic subversive right-wing revisionists, equivalent to tax evaders: confiscate their votes! |
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Mortadela alias Prodi je bil Evropski komisar !!!!
Pa sej ti na vprašanje predsedujočega Španca odgovarja un Anglež , da bi morali uvesti preiskavo zaradi tega , ker je bil Prodi - Mortadela , nekoč Evropski komisar ????
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Romano Prodi – Mortadela – KGB Agent ?????
The latest rumour doing the rounds is that Romano Prodi was a KGB contact in Italy. The same rumours also have it that this was what Litvinienko was meeting Scaramella on the 1st November to discuss, and to hand over papers relating to. This speech was made last week, in the European Parliament, by a UKIP member:
"Mr President, I should like to pay tribute to my constituent, Mr Alexander Litvinenko. Alexander was fearless in exposing the political gangsters that now run Russia, and the creatures of the KGB and FSB that still hold political office in Europe. For his bravery, he paid the ultimate price.
In April, I made two speeches in this Parliament repeating allegations made to me by Alexander that Romano Prodi had been an agent of some kind of the KGB. Alexander told me that the key figure to understanding Mr Prodi’s alleged relationship with the KGB in the 1970s was a man named Sokolov, also known as Konopkine, who worked for TASS in Italy.
Since Alexander can no longer testify to this effect, as he was ready, willing and able to do, I am pleased to provide this service for him posthumously."
But these allegations cannot be dismissed, as the mainstream media is doing.
On April 2, 1978, Prodi and other members of the faculty of the University of Bologna passed on a tip about a safe house where Aldo Moro, the former Prime Minister kidnapped by the Red Brigades, was detained. Bizarrely, Prodi claimed he had been given the tip by the founders of the Christian Democratic Party, contacted from beyond the grave via a séance and a Ouija board. While Prodi thought the word Gradoli referred to a town on the outskirts of Rome, it likely referred to the Roman address of a BR safehouse, located at via Gradoli 96. Later, other Italian members of the European Commission claimed that Prodi had invented this story to conceal the real source of the tip, which they believed to have originated in the Italian extraparliamentary left.So he recieved the whereabouts of a prisoner of a communist group from a seance? Pull the other one. He has something, at least, to conceal.Of course, if he was a spy, how many KGB contacts are there within the European Union? And was he actually a spy? I know that in Blairite Britain the truth is hard to come by, but I believe that we have the right to know. Unfortunately, I can't look in his MI5 file. Where are the documents that Litvinienko gave to Scaramella? And are we currently being ruled by the Russian Mafia? Somehow, I don't think that we'll get answers.
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Prodi slams UK TV networks over spy claim
Reuters Tuesday January 23, 06:38 PM
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi on Tuesday rejected British TV allegations that he had had links to the Soviet KGB and his spokesman said Britain's two biggest television channels had fallen victim to "news piracy".
Both the BBC and ITV broadcast programmes on Monday showing video footage of Alexander Litvinenko, the Russian state security former operative who was murdered
by radiation in London in November, making the claim against Prodi.
The existence of the video-taped allegations, filmed by an Italian prosecutor in February 2006, has long been known in Italy but the charges have been largely considered unreliable by its media.
According to Italian investigators, Mario Scaramella, an Italian contact of Litvinenko, persuaded the Russian to repeat on camera the accusation against Prodi which he had heard from former Russian spy, Anatoly Trofimov.
"Trofimov did not exactly say that Prodi was a KGB agent, because the KGB avoids using that word," Litvinenko said, according to a news report on ITV's Web site.
"He said Prodi was 'our man'... a KGB man... and that the KGB, with Prodi, was carrying out some secret, dirty operations in Italy. My understanding was that Prodi was working for the KGB."
The KGB is the acronym for the old Soviet state security apparatus which has since been renamed the FSB (Federal Security Service).
Prodi was on a two-day visit to Turkey when the programmes were aired, but his spokesman issued a statement saying he was stunned British media were running a story which had been "cleared up by the Italian legal system and press".
"I am stunned that news organs which so often are seen as authoritative are lending credence to false news given by odd sources, to people who have already been discredited, to such news piracy," spokesman Silvio Sircana said.
Litvinenko's brother Maxim, who lives in Italy, has told investigators that Litvinenko warned he knew nothing about Prodi and did not have any documents against him.
Prodi has threatened to sue anybody who slandered him concerning the alleged ties to the KGB
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Ex-KGB Colonel Alexander Litvinenko was investigating the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. They shared a deep hatred of President Putin.
"I hate him for his cynicism, for his racism, his lies, for the massacre of the innocents that went on throughout his first term as president," she wrote.
While she was traveling to cover the Beslan school massacre in 2004, she was served a poisoned cup of tea. She fell very ill but survived. She was gunned down last month.
On Nov. 1, it was Litvinenko's turn to be poisoned. Protected by armed guards, he is fighting for his life in a London hospital. He may survive. Then again, he may not.
"I can tell you he's ill. He is quite seriously sick. There's no doubt that he's been poisoned by thallium, and it probably dates back to Nov. 1, when he first started to get ill," Clinical toxicologist John Henry said.
The poisoning is being investigated by Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch.
General Anatoly Trofimov: 'Prodi is our man there'
On April 3, 2006, a British Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Gerard Batten, cited allegations by Alexander Litvinenko that Romano Prodi, former President of the European Commission and currently Italy Prime Minister, had been the KGB's top man in Italy.
While planning his escape from Russia, Litvinenko sought the advice of his boss and long time trusted friend, General Anatoly Trofimov. Batten told the European Parliament that Trofimov advised Litvinenko not to go to Italy because it was a KGB stronghold.
"Don't go to Italy, there are many KGB agents among the politicians: Romano Prodi is our man there," General Trofimov told Mr Litvinenko. Trofimov was shot dead in Moscow in 2005.
According to the EU Reporter, on April 3, 2006, "another high-level source, a former KGB operative in London, has confirmed the story."
"This allegation against a former head of the European Commission is one of the utmost seriousness. It should be thoroughly investigated. The European Parliament should conduct its own investigation," Batten told the MEPs.
On April 26, 2006, Batten repeated his call for a parliamentary inquiry, revealing that: "Former, senior members of the KGB are willing to testify in such an investigation, under the right conditions."
"It is not acceptable that this situation is unresolved, given the importance of Russia's relations with the European Union."
Batten added that the KGB is not an organization one can resign from and pointed to the fact that, as Italy's Prime Minister, Mr. Prodi will have access to the Council of Europe classified information.
Litvinenko has alleged that Mr. Prodi assisted in the protection of KGB operatives known to be involved in the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.
In February 2006, Mr Litvinenko passed the information to Mario Scaramella. Scaramella is a consultant for the Guzzanti Commission which investigates Soviet infiltration during the Cold War.
The Commission has already alleged that Soviet and Bulgarian agents had collaborated to assassinate Pope John Paul II.
Mario Scaramella met Litvinenko in London the day he was poisoned to discuss new information about Anna Politkovskaya's murder.
Prodi was Italian Prime Minister from 1996 to 1998. In October 1996, British intelligence informed Rome about allegations that 261 Italians had been operating as spies for the Soviet Union for decades.
In June 2006, Mr Prodi said that he had never been told about these allegations. However, his Defense Minister said that he had informed him.
On Monday, Mr. Pollari, the head of the Italian military intelligence agency (SISMI), and the chiefs of the civilian secret service agencies were removed.
"After a few years these positions of delicate responsibility must find their natural rotation," Premier Romano Prodi said.
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Prodi’s comradeship with the spoiled class of Italian capitalism began in the 1980s when he was president of the state holding company, IRI. He was the man charged with privatizing the state-owned industries. He is the one who sat for two years at the negotiating table with Ford when the American company was willing to pay fair market price for the state racing-stable, Alfa Romeo. He’s the man who tipped-off Gianni Agnelli at the 11th hour, signing a deal for a price well below market price, a price that Fiat never even paid.
During Prodi’s stint at IRI, he also tried to sell the state-owned food conglomerate SME to another one of his high profile bosom buddies, the industrialist Carlo De Benedetti. Only a few months earlier Heinz had tried to pay three times the amount that De Benedetti was offering, but had been told my Prodi that SME wasn’t for sale. When the then Prime Minister Bettino Craxi got word of the deal with De Benedetti, he asked his friend, Silvio Berlusconi, to make an offer. Berlusconi didn’t even want to buy SME, but Craxi convinced him to make an offer because the prime minister couldn’t bear to stand by and watch as Prodi sold off all the state assets to his friends at bargain basement prices. SME was eventually dismantled and sold to other buyers, However, the case ended up in the courts and irony would have it that instead of De Benedetti and Prodi occupying the seat of the accused, that seat was assigned to Silvio Berlusconi. Mr. Berlusconi was, of course, eventually acquitted, but that was just one of the many cases of persecution brought against him, the purpose of which was to discourage his participation in politics.
Nonetheless, the skeletons in Romano Prodi’s closet go well beyond bad business practices. During the 1970s Prodi admitted to spending an evening with friends consulting a Ouiji board. During the séance the board “revealed” that kidnapped Prime Minister Aldo Moro was being held in a place called Gradoli. It was later discovered, after Moro’s death, that he had been held, not in the town of Gradoli, but in an apartment in a Roman street called Via Gradoli. Unless you believe in the power of Ouiji boards, this means that the former president of the European Union and the candidate for the premiership of Italy not only knew where the Red Brigades were hiding Aldo Moro, but with his action, he was actually tipping off the terrorists to the fact that their hiding place was no longer secret!
Romano Prodi’s red comradeship took him to even higher places. During the coup d’état in the Soviet Union in 1991, in an interview with “Il Corriere della Sera”, Prodi boasted that he wasn’t at all surprised since the author of the coup, Vladimir Kriutshiev, was a personal friend of his. The coup fortunately failed, but had it succeeded, it would have meant the squashing of the democratic forces that were just beginning to blossom. For the record, Mr. Kriutshiev was the last leader of the Soviet KGB from 1988 to 1991.
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Prodi and democracy
In an interview with the German weekly Die Zeit, partially translated and reprinted by John Rosenthal on Transatlantic Intelligencer, the new Italian Prime Minister, Romano Prodi explained his views on modern Italian politics and the Italian electorate.
It seems that the narrowness of his victory rankles with Signor Prodi and his views on the Italian people are just a shade on the bitter side. According to him Italy under Berlusconi became post-democratic with the people enslaved by the TV channels owned by Mediaset, of which Berlusconi is not the owner but the principal shareholder.
What precisely is Prodi’s evidence for this terrible state of affairs? Why, the fact that certain groups voted for him in smaller proportion than they did for his rival. Clearly, there was brainwashing at work there.
“Die Zeit: The American journalist Alexander Stille writes that Berlusconi created his own voters with his television channels.
Prodi: That's right. And that is the post-democratic aspect of Berlusconi… In these elections, almost 70% of academics voted for me. 70 percent! Among women between 35 and 55, I received fewer votes, maybe (laughs) because I am not so sexy. But in this age group, I had 11% more voters among people with active careers than among housewives.
Die Zeit: …who obviously watch more Berlusconi-television.
Prodi: The less time people spend before the television, the more likely they are to vote for the center-left. That is the mathematical law of post-democracy.”
QED. People should not be allowed to watch the TV channel of their choice (and, as a matter of fact, some of them may have been watching one of the three Italian state owned RAI network) and professors, particularly if they are left-wing ought to be given the right to choose the government of their country with no recourse to anyone else’s opinions.
The really surprising thing is that Prodi was such a completely useless Commission President. The man is made for that job, I should have thought.
BTW When Prodi says '70% of the academics' ('Akademiker') he means not university teachers but 70% of all graduates. He's implying that he's so intellectual that women aged 35-55 who haven't bothered with a pseudo-masters degree in 'Faulkner, Fellini and Feminism' don't find him 'sexy'; they're not 'centre-left' (as they ought to be) because they watch too much tv. And as for double-parkers, dropping off their kids and loading their shopping - those classic subversive right-wing revisionists, equivalent to tax evaders: confiscate their votes! |
a ni bil mortadela prej neki v EU?KOK JE ŠELE TISTA KURBRIJA OKUŽENA...sej prav,bo prej razpadl.. |
JANI ?????
Se zajebavaš ????
Mortadela alias Prodi je bil Evropski komisar !!!!
Pa sej ti na vprašanje predsedujočega Španca odgovarja un Anglež , da bi morali uvesti preiskavo zaradi tega , ker je bil Prodi - Mortadela , nekoč Evropski komisar ???? |
khm...ne se zaletavat,1. maja je bil mokr k pes tam v gorici... 
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Sevede je bil. Pa še premalo !!!
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