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It cannot be said that all women who have breast cancer have had abortions. Similarly, not all women who have had abortions will get breast cancer. Nevertheless, abortion is the most preventable risk factor for breast cancer.
Two Ways that Abortion Raises Breast Cancer Risk

Women have the right to know that two breast cancer risks are associated with abortion - a recognized risk and a debated risk.

THE RECOGNIZED BREAST CANCER RISK

All experts agree that the longer a woman waits to have her first full term pregnancy, the greater her breast cancer risk is. Delaying the birth of a first child significantly increases risk because the childless woman has immature, cancer-vulnerable breast tissue - Type 1 and 2 lobules where 95% of all breast cancers are known to develop. Her breast tissue does not mature into cancer-resistant tissue until the last months of a full term pregnancy. By the end of a 40-week pregnancy, 85% of her breast lobules are mature, cancer-resistant lobules known as Type 4 lobules.

A delayed first full term pregnancy increases her risk because it extends the length of time during which her breasts remain susceptible to carcinogens. Scientists define an early first full term pregnancy as one that takes place before age 24.

Although delaying the birth of a first child is a known cancer risk, few experts have the intellectual honesty or the political courage to admit that abortion contributes to the breast cancer epidemic by causing a countless number of women to delay their first full term pregnancies every year.

THE DEBATED BREAST CANCER RISK

Experts debate whether an abortion further increases risk by leaving the woman with more cancer-vulnerable breast tissue than she had before she became pregnant. This effect is known as the "independent link."

The breasts grow considerably during pregnancy while under the influence of high levels of the hormone estrogen, a known carcinogen. Estrogen causes the woman's normal and cancer-vulnerable breast lobules to multiply. If she has an abortion, she's left with more places for cancers to start in her breasts. If she has a baby, then other pregnancy hormones mature her breast lobules into cancer-resistant lobules during the last months of pregnancy. She's left with more cancer-resistant tisue than she had before she became pregnant.

Seventy-two epidemiological studies have been conducted since 1957; and 80% of these studies have shown that abortion increases the risk of breast cancer independently of the effect of delaying the birth of a first child. These epidemiological studies establish a correlation between abortion and increased breast cancer risk. Most of the recent epidemiological studies focus exclusively on the effect of the independent link, not the known risk of delaying the birth of a first child.

An independent link is also supported by:

1) Animal research [Russo & Russo Am J Pathology 1980];

2) The World Health Organization's acknowledgement that oral contraceptives and hormone replacement therapy containing estrogen and progestin are "Group 1 carcinogens." (Press Release #167, July 29, 2005);

3) The established risk showing that a premature birth before 32 weeks gestation more than doubles breast cancer risk. The hormonal changes to the breasts are the same whether the woman has an abortion or a premature birth before 32 weeks gestation. [Melbye et al. Br J Cancer 1999; Hsieh et al. Lancet 1999; Vatten et al. Br J Cancer 2002; Innes and Byers Int J Cancer 2004]

4) Plausible biological reasons why an abortion leaves a woman more susceptible to breast cancer.

Abortion is an "elective surgical procedure and a woman’s exposure to the hormones of early pregnancy -- if it is interrupted -- is so great, that just one interrupted pregnancy is enough to make a significant difference in her risk" [Professor Joel Brind, President, Breast Cancer Prevention Institute, Endeavour Forum Public Meeting, August 24, 1999, Malvern, Victoria, Australia].

Because American Women already face a high lifetime risk of developing breast cancer of about 12.5 percent, boosting that risk by even a small percentage through the procurement of a single induced abortion is comparable to the risk of lung cancer from long-term heavy smoking. Approximately 1 in 100 women procuring an abortion is expected to die as a result of abortion-induced breast cancer.

A Medical Text and Henderson Lecture Acknowledge ABC Link

An Authoritative Medical Text for doctors who specialize in breast diseases discusses the causes of breast cancer. It states that the exposure of the breasts to estrogen for long periods of time proportionately increases breast cancer risk, and it specifically identifies abortion as a risk factor. It says, "Long-term exposure to endogenous estrogens (early menarche; late menopause; late age at first full-term pregnancy; and being overweight, leading to increased aromatization of circulating androgens to estrogens) appears to increase cancer risk. Risk is decreased only with early menopause (natural or artificial) and childbearing. However, first-trimester abortion increases risk." empasis added [Robert B. Dickson, Ph.D., Marc E. Lippman, MD, "Growth Regulation of Normal and Maglignant Breast Epithelium," The Breast: Comprehensice Management of Benign and Malignant Diseases, edited by Kirby I. Bland MD and Edward M. Copeland III, MD; (1998) W.B. Saunders Company; 2nd edition; Vol 1, p.519.]

(Click here to see the Credentials for the authors and editors of the medical text.)

The Medical Text cited the Henderson lecture to support the statement that "first-trimester abortion increases risk." Henderson said, "Recently, we found that a first-trimester abortion, whether spontaneous or induced, before the first full-term pregnancy is actually associated with an increase in the risk of breast cancer." [Henderson, B.E., Ross R., Berstein, L.; "Estrogens as a cause of human cancer," The Richard and Hinda Rosenthal Foundation Award Lecture, University of Southern California School of Medicine, Los Angeles, California: Cancer Res 48:246-253, 1988]

The Henderson Lecture was published in 1988. The statement asserting that abortion is linked with increased breast cancer risk was based on only two studies, the first of which Henderson co-authored and was the first published American study. [Pike MC, Henderson BE, Casagrande JT, et al. "Oral contraceptive use and early abortion as risk factors for breast cancer in young women, " Br. J. Cancer (1981) 43:72-76; and Hadjimichael OC, Boyle CA, and Meigs JW, "Abortion before first live birth and risk of breast cancer," Br. J. Cancer (1986) 53:281-284.]

A discussion of the Pike Study was provided by Dr. Joel Brind during his 1999 lecture in Malvern, Victoria in Australia.

National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control

Scientists from the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control, Bruce Stadel and Phyllis Wingo, and two other prominent epidemiologists were convinced of a link in 1986. They co-authored a letter to the British journal, Lancet, and said, "Induced abortion before first term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer." [Feb, 22, 1986, p. 436] They acknowledged the independent effect of an induced abortion on breast cancer risk at a time when there were only two American studies linking abortion with the disease. [Pike et al. (1981) Br J Cancer 43:72-6; and Brinton et al. (1983) Br J Cancer 47:757-62]

Why aren't women being told?

National Cancer Institute

Dr. Janet Daling, an abortion supporter, and her colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center were commissioned by the National Cancer Institute to conduct a study to determine if induced abortion raises breast cancer risk. The study found that, "among women who had been pregnant at least once, the risk of breast cancer in those who had experienced an induced abortion was 50% higher than among other women."

High Risk Groups

Daling identified 3 high risk groups and reported these findings:

1) Women under the age of 18 or over the age of 29 who obtained induced abortions have more than a twofold increase in risk.

2) Women with a family history of breast cancer who procured an abortion were found to have statistically significant risk increases of 80 percent.

3) Teenagers with a family history of the disease who procured abortions before the age of 18 were found to have incalculably high risk. All 12 women in Daling's study with this background were diagnosed with breast cancer by the age of 45. [Daling et al. (1994) J Natl Cancer Inst 86:505-14.]

An additional high risk group was identified by Dr. Amelia Laing of Howard University:

1. African American women had a 50% increased risk before the age of 40, a 180% increased risk between the ages 41 and 49 and a 370% increased risk after age 50 if they'd ever procured at least one abortion. [Laing et al. (1993) J Natl Med Assoc 85:931-9]

A subsequent study by this author comparing sisters, one of which had procured an abortion, reported a 144% increased risk. [Laing et al. (1994) Genet Epidemiology 11: A300]

Jane Orient, MD, a spokeswoman for the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, told World Net Daily that, “If you look at the number of studies that show a connection, they vastly outnumber the ones that don’t, and the ones that don’t have been criticized for serious methodological flaws.” She reported that the elevated risk is “substantial, particularly in women who abort their first pregnancy at a young age and who have a family history of breast cancer. It’s something like 800 percent.” She added, “I think (doctors) should inform patients about this,” and the information “should include the potential connection with breast cancer as well as the long-term psychological risk.” [John Dougherty, “Can doctors be sued over abortion? Those who don’t inform patients of breast cancer link could be targets,” World Net Daily, <www.worldnetdaily.com>, March 27, 2002]

National Cancer Institute

Dr. Janet Daling, an abortion supporter, and her colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center were commissioned by the National Cancer Institute to conduct a study to determine if induced abortion raises breast cancer risk. The study found that, "among women who had been pregnant at least once, the risk of breast cancer in those who had experienced an induced abortion was 50% higher than among other women."



Abortion is an "elective surgical procedure and a woman’s exposure to the hormones of early pregnancy -- if it is interrupted -- is so great, that just one interrupted pregnancy is enough to make a significant difference in her risk" [Professor Joel Brind, President, Breast Cancer Prevention Institute, Endeavour Forum Public Meeting, August 24, 1999, Malvern, Victoria, Australia].

Because American Women already face a high lifetime risk of developing breast cancer of about 12.5 percent, boosting that risk by even a small percentage through the procurement of a single induced abortion is comparable to the risk of lung cancer from long-term heavy smoking. Approximately 1 in 100 women procuring an abortion is expected to die as a result of abortion-induced breast cancer.

An Authoritative Medical Text for doctors who specialize in breast diseases discusses the causes of breast cancer. It states that the exposure of the breasts to estrogen for long periods of time proportionately increases breast cancer risk, and it specifically identifies abortion as a risk factor. It says, "Long-term exposure to endogenous estrogens (early menarche; late menopause; late age at first full-term pregnancy; and being overweight, leading to increased aromatization of circulating androgens to estrogens) appears to increase cancer risk. Risk is decreased only with early menopause (natural or artificial) and childbearing. However, first-trimester abortion increases risk." empasis added [Robert B. Dickson, Ph.D., Marc E. Lippman, MD, "Growth Regulation of Normal and Maglignant Breast Epithelium," The Breast: Comprehensice Management of Benign and Malignant Diseases, edited by Kirby I. Bland MD and Edward M. Copeland III, MD; (1998) W.B. Saunders Company; 2nd edition; Vol 1, p.519.]



evo,naš mato je bolj pameten kot vsi dohtrji,pa nj boddo avstralci,američani al pa iz marsa....on si vzame pravico da popljuva(druzga tud ne zna in ne zmore!) ideološke nasprotnike ki v veliki meri širijo resnico,neprijetno,pa vendar resnico...in s tem je podoben našim predvojnim in medvojnim od moskve plačanih kričačem ki pa v bistvu blage veze o vezi niso imel...zanimala jih je samo oblast(čeprav so imel prepolne riti in izključno oblast neglede na ceno...
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dej se navedi vir, s katerega si prekopiral, ce upas Smejati se na glas


Ej, pun kurac mam laznih referenc. Dal sem ti link NCIja z NJIHOVIM staliscem, ti mi pa tle nabijas s kvazi citati, ki so jih drugi kao rekli o tej raziskavi.

Preneumno.
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enzrovt je napisal/a:
dej se navedi vir, s katerega si prekopiral, ce upas Smejati se na glas


Ej, pun kurac mam laznih referenc. Dal sem ti link NCIja z NJIHOVIM staliscem, ti mi pa tle nabijas s kvazi citati, ki so jih drugi kao rekli o tej raziskavi.

Preneumno.


preneumn si ti...tud kliknu nis,mater,kaka oholst...

in seveda si bolj pameten kot vsi našteti dohtrji,se kdo sploh čiud?
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in kot je razvidno iz tvoje prepametne pripombe,tud prebaral nis,mater.,...linki,viri,vseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,kfak of pa taki revolucionarji..
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Enostavo, miki - prej si dal LAZNE citate. Nisi kredibilen. Tvojim navedbam se ne da zaupati. Popusil si, bejbi.

Se enkrat: bos izpljunil link al ine? v tako kratkem casu nisi mogel sam kompajlirati tega posta, se man pa ovrednotiti verodostojnost. Se pravi, si spet plonkal ze en ready-made bullshit. In jaz naj grem preverjat za vsakega nastetega dohtarja, a je to RES rekel ali je to spet "kreativno novinarstvo"? In, poleg tega naj grem preverjat kredibilnost vsakega dohtarja posebej? A s ti prfuknen???? Dejstvo je, da tvojim navedbam ne morem vec zaupat. Enkrat si me poskusal netegnit z laznim citatom NCIja.

Zajebal si.
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Da ti bo bolj jasno: ta tvoja driska, ki si jo nalimal, spet trdi, da je NCI odkril 50% vecjo verjetnost - hecno, NCI na SVOJI strani trdi obratno.

Torej, a bos dal link al bos pa priznal da si isti bullshiter?
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enzrovt je napisal/a:
Enostavo, miki - prej si dal LAZNE citate. Nisi kredibilen. Tvojim navedbam se ne da zaupati. Popusil si, bejbi.

Se enkrat: bos izpljunil link al ine? v tako kratkem casu nisi mogel sam kompajlirati tega posta, se man pa ovrednotiti verodostojnost. Se pravi, si spet plonkal ze en ready-made bullshit. In jaz naj grem preverjat za vsakega nastetega dohtarja, a je to RES rekel ali je to spet "kreativno novinarstvo"? In, poleg tega naj grem preverjat kredibilnost vsakega dohtarja posebej? A s ti prfuknen???? Dejstvo je, da tvojim navedbam ne morem vec zaupat. Enkrat si me poskusal netegnit z laznim citatom NCIja.

Zajebal si.


Dobro jutro!

Res dobro ... sem se cepala, ko to berem ... si v istem položaju kot jaz zadnjič, ko sem še samo strmela v ekran in se spraševala če je to sploh res kaj vidim.

Čakala sem pa samo na to, da bo kdo imel tolk jajc pa povedal- jem meso, ker mi to PAŠE, tako kot kadim, ker mi to paše, pa za oboje vem, da ni zdravo (še manj pa etično).
Sam ne ... tu te hočejo prepričat, da je JESTI MESO ZDRAVO, KADITI JE ZDRAVO- splav, edino splav pa je nevaren.

Pa saj se ti mora utrgat.
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enzrovt je napisal/a:
Enostavo, miki - prej si dal LAZNE citate. Nisi kredibilen. Tvojim navedbam se ne da zaupati. Popusil si, bejbi.

Se enkrat: bos izpljunil link al ine? v tako kratkem casu nisi mogel sam kompajlirati tega posta, se man pa ovrednotiti verodostojnost. Se pravi, si spet plonkal ze en ready-made bullshit. In jaz naj grem preverjat za vsakega nastetega dohtarja, a je to RES rekel ali je to spet "kreativno novinarstvo"? In, poleg tega naj grem preverjat kredibilnost vsakega dohtarja posebej? A s ti prfuknen???? Dejstvo je, da tvojim navedbam ne morem vec zaupat. Enkrat si me poskusal netegnit z laznim citatom NCIja.

Zajebal si.


prej?a zdej pa ne?hohohohohoho...sori,ampak tm lepo piše kako in kaj...da pa neka inštitucija zanalašč,kljub opozarjanjem spremeni kurz,je možno samo zarad denarja...
link?je podan,vse kar nucaš je mš,klik,in znanje angleščine...
seveda,če ti neki ne paše potem pač nočeš,jebat ga..
nobenga dohtrrja ti ni treba preverjat,sej ti že vnaprej veš...
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Ej, povedal sem, kje stojijo NCI, AAPS, CAB, teta karen itd ...

In ce gres spodbijat resno institucijo z nekimi dzizasfriki, tud prov.
Ej. res se mi ne da vec. Usral si ga, in vsak poskus, da operes ksiht, te zaradi tvoje neumnosti (ker trmas ne da bi sel preverjat in gor limas vlanke ki jih sploh nisi prebral, se manj razumel) potunka globje v drek.

Mam pac veliko zanesljivejse vire od tebe - heh, lih vceri sva vrgla eno debato na to temo z mojo sestro (ni panike,skype je zastonj) .. pozna ona dobr te jihadovce ...
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enzrovt je napisal/a:
Enostavo, miki - prej si dal LAZNE citate. Nisi kredibilen. Tvojim navedbam se ne da zaupati. Popusil si, bejbi.

Se enkrat: bos izpljunil link al ine? v tako kratkem casu nisi mogel sam kompajlirati tega posta, se man pa ovrednotiti verodostojnost. Se pravi, si spet plonkal ze en ready-made bullshit. In jaz naj grem preverjat za vsakega nastetega dohtarja, a je to RES rekel ali je to spet "kreativno novinarstvo"? In, poleg tega naj grem preverjat kredibilnost vsakega dohtarja posebej? A s ti prfuknen???? Dejstvo je, da tvojim navedbam ne morem vec zaupat. Enkrat si me poskusal netegnit z laznim citatom NCIja.

Zajebal si.


Dobro jutro!

Res dobro ... sem se cepala, ko to berem ... si v istem položaju kot jaz zadnjič, ko sem še samo strmela v ekran in se spraševala če je to sploh res kaj vidim.

Čakala sem pa samo na to, da bo kdo imel tolk jajc pa povedal- jem meso, ker mi to PAŠE, tako kot kadim, ker mi to paše, pa za oboje vem, da ni zdravo (še manj pa etično).
Sam ne ... tu te hočejo prepričat, da je JESTI MESO ZDRAVO, KADITI JE ZDRAVO- splav, edino splav pa je nevaren.

Pa saj se ti mora utrgat.


sej verjamem da je res smešen,človk noče klikat in brat..sam je prej žalostno,ker ena kao prolajferka kr naenkrat zamenja kurz..bohnedaj da bi prebrala celo stvar...
in še tole,ničkolikokrat smo ti povedal da jemo meso ker nam paše,kadimo tud iz istega razloga,sam če je nekdo tup,je tup...že kar zahojen...bi reku

EVO,JESTI MESO JE NUJNO,ZA KAR SI TI NAJVEČJI PRIMER KAR JIH POZNAM,KADITI V NORMALNI KOLIČINAH ZDRAVO,PA ŠE FAJN SE USERJEŠ,SPLAV PA JE NEVAREN...
ŽE ZATO KER VSAKE TOLK ČASA POZABJO KOGA SPLAVIT! Boo hoo!
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sej bo slo, ni panike .. sam par strani je treba pregurat, da janiju tist mali latentni fasistek ven udar. Juhej!!!


Ej bk smotan, noben ne prav da je splav kul zadeva, pac pa da je tvoj argument, ki ga tle vlacis okol navadno sranje (pa se sam nisi kriv, ce so te proliferji nategnil). Jest se strinjam, da je to verjetno kar velika pizdarija iz psiholoskega stalisca, verketno tud organsko kej razcefuka telo, da o morali ne govorimo, ampak korelacije med rakom in abortusi pa --- NI!!!

Sem ti probal namignit, pa ti ne potegne. Oba dejavnika sta posledica tretjega,ne pa en vzrok drugega. TO so dokazali v raziskavi.


(dej mi se razlozi, o veliki teoretik zarote,zakaj taista institucija trdi, da obstaja povezava med kajenjem in rakom? Ce so take prodane duse, da nastavljajo rit farmacevtskim fabrkam, kako to da cigaretni lobi jebejo v glavo? pa ja niso cigaretarji prevec skrtarili?)
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enzrovt je napisal/a:
Ej, povedal sem, kje stojijo NCI, AAPS, CAB, teta karen itd ...

In ce gres spodbijat resno institucijo z nekimi dzizasfriki, tud prov.
Ej. res se mi ne da vec. Usral si ga, in vsak poskus, da operes ksiht, te zaradi tvoje neumnosti (ker trmas ne da bi sel preverjat in gor limas vlanke ki jih sploh nisi prebral, se manj razumel) potunka globje v drek.

Mam pac veliko zanesljivejse vire od tebe - heh, lih vceri sva vrgla eno debato na to temo z mojo sestro (ni panike,skype je zastonj) .. pozna ona dobr te jihadovce ...


sej,drugi stručkoti so pasji kurac...

sestro maš?kje? Dancing
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Kateri struckoti? Teta karen? Sposojena imena struckotov pod proliferskimi pamfleti (tko kot tisto citiranje NCI)?

Naj ti bo dovolj podatek, da je ona v tem fohu (preklet visok) in to v zda, se prav da ve kaj govori.
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Pridružen/-a: 10.01. 2007, 22:21
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 21 Mar 2008 15:39    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

Zdravo

enzrovt je napisal/a:
pozab. tud jest ne bom docakal odgovora o umetnem oplojevanju Pomezik


Vprašam pa ga lahko, če sva že zaradi tega začela tematiko.

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Pridružen/-a: 10.01. 2007, 22:21
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 21 Mar 2008 15:41    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

Zdravo

mala malca je napisal/a:


ma ti, ki si malo manj pameten kot veliki lenin(da si isto ali bolj si tud ne upaš pomislit) ki je šel spodbijat Macha ,in zaradi tega leta in leta socialistične šole macha niso predavale o tej temi bboš pa ja vse vedel...ko se že tolk pogovrjate v familiji o ginekologiji je mal čuden da ti ne povedo kako je bil na meji prestrežen tovornjak poln fetusov namenjenih kozmetični industriji,niti se ne mente o temu kako je znana švicarska firma testirala tabletke na naših bejbah,in ker se je pojavljal preveč raka zadeve niso plasiral na zahodu ,itd itd...naš vseved ve en kurac,on bi se šu revolucijo(pri 43 letih!!!!),nima zadost,rad bi več,prodaja pa to v celofan zavito skrb za druge....v bistvu te ornk boli kurac za druge,en velik napihnjen egoist si,ki se ima za neiztmerno pametnega,v resnic pa ena sama tema...
ta naš revolucionar za svojo rit tud pod razno noče priznat da splav ni jemanje brisa,da je nevaren in da se o nevarnostih ženske tud pod razno ne opoziori...ta naš veleum tud ne bo priznal da je odstranitev mandeljev močno povečeno tveganje raka na grlu..trdil bo da to nima nobene povezave...ker je pač zaslepljen bumbar ki ne vid 1 cm pred nosom...

kar se tiče umetne oploditve stojim za stališčom da mora imeti otrok vse pravice drugih otrok,torej,tudi dedovanja po biološkem očetu ali materi in praavico vedeti kdo je oče!...vse ostalo je vrhunska pravna in naravna diskriminacija


Tebi res nihče ne seže do kolen.

Sicer pa:
- trdiš, da so ženske premalo poučene in da jim recimo pri nas ne povedo? To si slišal samo na prižnici.
- a si se ti kdaj vprašal zakaj je RKC proti umetni oploditvi (malo se pozanimaj, ker ti bo potem kapnilo od kod toliko fetusov
- kje imaš dokaze za Švico (nismo Kenija)
- kje pa Matt trdi, da je splav enak jemanju brisa

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