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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 18:21
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 25 Dec 2008 16:33    Naslov sporočila: Sveti oce... Odgovori s citatom

Gre leta 1939 nazi soldat po polski in sreča polskega vojaka.
nazi nameri, želi sprožiti, ko se oglasi glas iz neba, "ne, ne nikar. to je bodoči papež."
nazi se nakremži in po krajšem premisleku reče, "prav, če sem jaz lahko naslednji " !
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 25 Dec 2008 22:08    Naslov sporočila: Re: Sveti oce... Odgovori s citatom

marmije je napisal/a:
Gre leta 1939 nazi soldat po polski in sreča polskega vojaka.
nazi nameri, želi sprožiti, ko se oglasi glas iz neba, "ne, ne nikar. to je bodoči papež."
nazi se nakremži in po krajšem premisleku reče, "prav, če sem jaz lahko naslednji " !


nonsens,poljak nikol ni bil soldat,nemec pa je bil star 12 let...

in btw,"tačrni" so bili veliki nasprotniki nacijev,tako v avstriji,kot v katoliških deželah nemčije...velik večji kot komunisti Boo hoo!
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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 26 Dec 2008 00:41    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

cist tko - enacenje nacijev in komijev je nonsens - namrec, ideologiji sta si bili v bistvu diametralno nasprotni, ceprav sta v pojavnih oblikah delovali podobno. Nasprotnost je bila genericna pripadnost vs. pridobljena pripadnost. Tega marsikdo ne steka.
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 26 Dec 2008 01:59    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

enzrovt je napisal/a:
cist tko - enacenje nacijev in komijev je nonsens - namrec, ideologiji sta si bili v bistvu diametralno nasprotni, ceprav sta v pojavnih oblikah delovali podobno. Nasprotnost je bila genericna pripadnost vs. pridobljena pripadnost. Tega marsikdo ne steka.


očitno je nimaš pojma o pojmu...




Nazi publications and speeches included anti-capitalist (especially anti-finance capitalist) rhetoric.[15] Hitler attacked what he called “pluto-democracy,” which he claimed to be a Jewish conspiracy to favor democratic parties in order to keep capitalism intact.[68] The “corporation” was attacked by orthodox Nazis as being the leading instrument of finance capitalism, with the role of Jews emphasized.[69] The National Socialist party described itself as socialist, and, at the time, conservative opponents such as the Industrial Employers Association described it as “totalitarian, terrorist, conspiratorial, and socialist.”[70]

Hitler said in 1927, “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance.”[74] However, Hitler wrote in 1930, “Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not.”[75] In a confidential 1931 interview, Hitler told the influential editor of a pro-business newspaper, “I want everyone to keep what he has earned subject to the principle that the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State… The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.”[76] Party spokesman Joseph Goebbels claimed in 1932 that the Nazi Party was a “workers’ party” and “on the side of labor and against finance”.[37] According to Friedrich Hayek, writing in 1944, “whatever may have been his reasons, Hitler thought it expedient to declare in one of his public speeches as late as February 1941 that ‘basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same.’ ”[77] Privately, Hitler stated in 1942, “I absolutely insist on protecting private property… we must encourage private initiative”.[78]


Working class appeal
Hitler attempted to ensure that the Nazis were seen as a unique movement by discredting other nationalist and racialist political parties as being out of touch with the masses, especially lower-class youth, saying in 1922:

The racialists were not capable of drawing the practical conclusions from correct theoretical judgements, especially in the Jewish Question. In this way the German racialist movement developed a similar pattern to that of the 1880s and 1890s. As in those days, its leadership gradually fell into the hands of highly honourable but fantastically naive men of learning, professors, district counsellors, schoolmasters, and lawyers - in short a bourgeois, idealistic and refined class. It lacked the warm breath of the nation's youthful vigour.[79]

Many scholars have discredited the Nazis' appeal to the working-class as neither being effective nor true in intent, and say that the Nazis were largely a movement of the middle-class.[80] Other scholars like Michael Burleigh have challenged this notion, claiming that there was a sizable number of working-class supporters of the Nazis.[80] Burleigh also claims that the financial situation of middle-class supporters must be considered, in that the economic situation of hyperinflation of currency in the 1920s smashed the financial situation of middle-class and caused high unemployment of middle-class people who previously held white-collar jobs.[80] Therefore, a larger percentage of declared middle-class support for the Nazis does not necessarily mean that a financially

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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 26 Dec 2008 13:43    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

spet: tud ce se repencis, deres in pizdis, tvoji argumenti niso zaradi tega cist nic mocnejsi. Dej raj preber kaj sem napisal in vklop tisto med usesi.

Matr me slamparija razpizdi ...
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 26 Dec 2008 15:51    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

enzrovt je napisal/a:
spet: tud ce se repencis, deres in pizdis, tvoji argumenti niso zaradi tega cist nic mocnejsi. Dej raj preber kaj sem napisal in vklop tisto med usesi.

Matr me slamparija razpizdi ...


mene pa nesposobnost dojemanja,ali po domače neinteligenca

judje = kapitalisti
sovražiki države= vsi ki se ne strinjajo z nami
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