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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 21:39
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THE UNTOLD STORY OF HUMAN HISTORY
History began some 40,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter.
The two most important events in all of history were:
the invention of beer & the invention of the wheel
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and, together, were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
Liberals and Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.
That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbecue at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
"the Conservative movement."
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly barbecues and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing.
This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats,
the invention of group therapy,
group hugs
and the concept of Democratic voting
(to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided).
Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized
by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth,
THE ELEPHANT.
Liberals are symbolized by
THE JACKASS.
Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added) (& foo foo coffee), but most prefer white wine or imported, bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard Liberal fare.
Other interesting evolutionary side notes:
Most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are Liberals.
Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
As for Conservatives:
Conservatives drink domestic beer.
They eat red meat and still provide for their women.
Conservatives are big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, fighter pilots, athletes and generally anyone who works productively outside government.
Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.
On the other Hand:
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.
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Dorje
Pridružen/-a: 14.11. 2006, 10:13
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| Objavljeno: 21 Jul 2008 12:21 Naslov sporočila: Re: Zamolčana (pristranska) zgodovina človeka |
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THE UNTOLD STORY OF HUMAN HISTORY
History began some 40,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter.
The two most important events in all of history were:
the invention of beer & the invention of the wheel
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and, together, were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
Liberals and Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.
That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbecue at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
"the Conservative movement."
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly barbecues and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing.
This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats,
the invention of group therapy,
group hugs
and the concept of Democratic voting
(to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided).
Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized
by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth,
THE ELEPHANT.
Liberals are symbolized by
THE JACKASS.
Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added) (& foo foo coffee), but most prefer white wine or imported, bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard Liberal fare.
Other interesting evolutionary side notes:
Most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are Liberals.
Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
As for Conservatives:
Conservatives drink domestic beer.
They eat red meat and still provide for their women.
Conservatives are big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, fighter pilots, athletes and generally anyone who works productively outside government.
Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.
On the other Hand:
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.
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Važno je, da pivo in kolo s pridom uporabljemo liberali in konzervativci, Američani in Evropejci.
Azijce pivo sicer malo bolj meče kot belce, ker jim manjka nekega encima za "predelavo" alkohola, zato pa znajo kolo zavrteti hitrje kot mi! |
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mala malca
Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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THE UNTOLD STORY OF HUMAN HISTORY
History began some 40,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter.
The two most important events in all of history were:
the invention of beer & the invention of the wheel
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and, together, were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
Liberals and Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.
That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbecue at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
"the Conservative movement."
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly barbecues and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing.
This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats,
the invention of group therapy,
group hugs
and the concept of Democratic voting
(to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided).
Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized
by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth,
THE ELEPHANT.
Liberals are symbolized by
THE JACKASS.
Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added) (& foo foo coffee), but most prefer white wine or imported, bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard Liberal fare.
Other interesting evolutionary side notes:
Most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are Liberals.
Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
As for Conservatives:
Conservatives drink domestic beer.
They eat red meat and still provide for their women.
Conservatives are big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, fighter pilots, athletes and generally anyone who works productively outside government.
Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.
On the other Hand:
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.
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in da bo jasn kje se je najprej vozil na pir:)
Najstarejše kolo in najstarejši voz v Evropi iz 4. st. pr. Kr., najden v koliščarski naselbini Stare gmajne na Ljubljanskem barju, pričata o živahni transportni dejavnosti naših prednikov. Kolesna plošča je iz jesena premera 72 cm, sestavljena iz treh plošč, ki so povezane s štirimi letvami in dodatno zvezane z vrvjo, ki pa se ni ohranila. Povezavo z vrvjo dokazujeta luknji na njihovem stiku. Kolo je bilo v sredini debelo 5 cm in se je tanjšalo proti robu. Os je bila iz hrasta dolga 124 cm in je simetrična. Zaključka sta pravokotnega preseka 6×5,5 cm in se ujemata z odprtino na kolesu. Temu štirioglatemu delu, na katerem je bilo nasajeno kolo, sledi odebeljeni del z nadvišanim robom, ki je deloval kot zapora, da os ni zdrsnila iz ležišč na vozu, po katerih je drsela toga prema z dvema kolesoma. Enoosno, dvokolesno vozilo je bilo posebej primerno za naše hribovite kraje, praviloma pa sta ga vlekli dve živali. Kolo je datirano v drugo polovico 4. tisočletja pr. Kr. in je staro okoli 5.300 let [
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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| Pa si lahko siguren, da je bilo to vozilo lokalcev? Kaj pa ce so se svicarski turisti peljal skoz te kraje? |
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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| Pa si lahko siguren, da je bilo to vozilo lokalcev? Kaj pa ce so se svicarski turisti peljal skoz te kraje? |
pa si ti sigurn da je tist bicikl iz švice ,ki je mimogrede,mlajši,res od švicarjev?
dejstvo je da je naš bicikl najstarejši,in naši butli ne znajo iz tega potegnt dnar.......veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiik dnar...
in zate bi bi bil cajt da pišeš striktno v unem revnem jeziku angleščini,sej slovenci pu kurca nismo vredni,al kako?
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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Pizda si butl - tisto kolo je lahko tam pustil prav kdorkoli. Mogoce tud tvoj prapra...ded al pa praprapra..babica od muhameda. Pa tud ce bi gor pisal made in (ancient) slovenia -kva, a to naj mi ego gor nabije? A sem jest zato kaj vec? a sem jest kaj vec ker je slucajno iz istega konca tud preseren, j. stefan, dr.godina?
Matr kolk se je fajn kitit s pavovim perjem  |
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Dorje
Pridružen/-a: 14.11. 2006, 10:13
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| Pa si lahko siguren, da je bilo to vozilo lokalcev? Kaj pa ce so se svicarski turisti peljal skoz te kraje? |
pa si ti sigurn da je tist bicikl iz švice ,ki je mimogrede,mlajši,res od švicarjev?
dejstvo je da je naš bicikl najstarejši,in naši butli ne znajo iz tega potegnt dnar.......veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiik dnar...
in zate bi bi bil cajt da pišeš striktno v unem revnem jeziku angleščini,sej slovenci pu kurca nismo vredni,al kako? |
K'k se je že gunm rekl', k so pred 5300 let klele te gare porival? A so bil' to že taprau Krance? Al' so bil že kr' Notranc? Kej so pa dejlal s tistim garam, so jim u šota ušle?? |
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mala malca
Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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Pizda si butl - tisto kolo je lahko tam pustil prav kdorkoli. Mogoce tud tvoj prapra...ded al pa praprapra..babica od muhameda. Pa tud ce bi gor pisal made in (ancient) slovenia -kva, a to naj mi ego gor nabije? A sem jest zato kaj vec? a sem jest kaj vec ker je slucajno iz istega konca tud preseren, j. stefan, dr.godina?
Matr kolk se je fajn kitit s pavovim perjem |
no,pol pejt to povedat unim idiotom ki se pred stonehengom nadrkavajo...al pa arabcom za piramide ki definitivno niso njihove...
men se pa fajn zdi da mamo najstarejše kolo...in neumn da iz tega ne nardimo gnar....ti se pa jebi v tistih rovtah,loh greš 100 okol sveta,v glav boš ostal rovtar...
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
Ivan Maček - Matija |
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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| Pa si lahko siguren, da je bilo to vozilo lokalcev? Kaj pa ce so se svicarski turisti peljal skoz te kraje? |
pa si ti sigurn da je tist bicikl iz švice ,ki je mimogrede,mlajši,res od švicarjev?
dejstvo je da je naš bicikl najstarejši,in naši butli ne znajo iz tega potegnt dnar.......veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiik dnar...
in zate bi bi bil cajt da pišeš striktno v unem revnem jeziku angleščini,sej slovenci pu kurca nismo vredni,al kako? |
K'k se je že gunm rekl', k so pred 5300 let klele te gare porival? A so bil' to že taprau Krance? Al' so bil že kr' Notranc? Kej so pa dejlal s tistim garam, so jim u šota ušle?? |
ka ti spet ni prou?mamo najstraj bicikl,ti se pa jebi...
zgodovina je drugačna kolt so ti vbil v glavo...
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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Pizda si butl - tisto kolo je lahko tam pustil prav kdorkoli. Mogoce tud tvoj prapra...ded al pa praprapra..babica od muhameda. Pa tud ce bi gor pisal made in (ancient) slovenia -kva, a to naj mi ego gor nabije? A sem jest zato kaj vec? a sem jest kaj vec ker je slucajno iz istega konca tud preseren, j. stefan, dr.godina?
Matr kolk se je fajn kitit s pavovim perjem |
no,pol pejt to povedat unim idiotom ki se pred stonehengom nadrkavajo...al pa arabcom za piramide ki definitivno niso njihove...
men se pa fajn zdi da mamo najstarejše kolo...in neumn da iz tega ne nardimo gnar....ti se pa jebi v tistih rovtah,loh greš 100 okol sveta,v glav boš ostal rovtar... |
Ej, tist niso idioti - ne gre tle za neko "narodno" zavest, pac pa za opominjanje, da rkc bleferji niso bli prvi in edini.
Kaj mas prot rovtarjem, zabar?
(aja, tolci se po prsih zarad 5000 let starga kolesa je tko kot ce bis se ahmeninedzad bahal z zarathustro) |
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 04:56
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Pizda si butl - tisto kolo je lahko tam pustil prav kdorkoli. Mogoce tud tvoj prapra...ded al pa praprapra..babica od muhameda. Pa tud ce bi gor pisal made in (ancient) slovenia -kva, a to naj mi ego gor nabije? A sem jest zato kaj vec? a sem jest kaj vec ker je slucajno iz istega konca tud preseren, j. stefan, dr.godina?
Matr kolk se je fajn kitit s pavovim perjem |
no,pol pejt to povedat unim idiotom ki se pred stonehengom nadrkavajo...al pa arabcom za piramide ki definitivno niso njihove...
men se pa fajn zdi da mamo najstarejše kolo...in neumn da iz tega ne nardimo gnar....ti se pa jebi v tistih rovtah,loh greš 100 okol sveta,v glav boš ostal rovtar... |
Ej, tist niso idioti - ne gre tle za neko "narodno" zavest, pac pa za opominjanje, da rkc bleferji niso bli prvi in edini.
Kaj mas prot rovtarjem, zabar?
(aja, tolci se po prsih zarad 5000 let starga kolesa je tko kot ce bis se ahmeninedzad bahal z zarathustro) |
ne ne,niso...okol skačejo v keltskih opravah,pa pr najboljš voli tisti kamni nimajo s kelti čist nič..če to ni idiotizem,pol pa ne vem...drugo.l..rkc v vb že lep čas niso porvi in edni,torej zopet strel v glavo in dokaz tvojga rovtarsva ki pa kulminira v ahmiju...pa pizda,ka se bo model hvalu ,če jih pa žive sežiga,takorekoč...kr dorčita pobari.. 
MI PA IMAMO NAJSTAREJŠ KOLO NA SVETU IN TI TESLO TEGA NE DOJAMEŠ,AMPAK SKOZ KR NEKI PODTIKAŠ!
NAJBOLJ DA SE ZAPELJEŠ DO UNIH KAMNOV ,PA BUTN BUTN BUTN....
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
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Pridružen/-a: 18.03. 2008, 20:14
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Mimogrede, videl sem jih ze kar nekaj (priblizno 2 km od moje bajte je en tak cairn). In neopagani nimajo kej dost veze s kelti. Okej, vecina jih je zblojenih hipuzlov, eni pa samo obujajo ze skoraj izumrle tradicije, ki jih je krscanska kuga skoraj unicila ali vsaj absorbirala.
Saj nisem niti pricakoval, da bi razumel analogijo za ahmeninedzadom.
KDO MI, vosu zarukan??? Kaj kurac pa mas ti skupnega s folkom, ki se je tam motal okoli 5 jurjev let nazaj? Ok, mogoce mas kak gen od njih. Heh, jest mam tud nogoce kak gen od kakega megarazturaskega rimljana, jaka muda. Prekleta desnicarska bebavost ... zarad lastne inferiornosti in mensejebizma se je treba ves cas skrivat za "velikimi predniki", huh? Isti drek k naciji, k so fural svoj egotrip na nekih tevtonskih vitezih, da ne govorim o tem, da so ga metal na roke na skandinavsko cover verzijo slovanske mitologije .. hej, saj je tud vsak pofukan kalabrezzi vedu povedat, da je v zlahti s cesarji.
podn!!!
pizdumaternu, steje izkljucno samo to, kar SI, SAM, ne pa kaki dzeki so slucajno lomil podoben jezik kot ti 3000000 let nazaj .. |
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Mimogrede, videl sem jih ze kar nekaj (priblizno 2 km od moje bajte je en tak cairn). In neopagani nimajo kej dost veze s kelti. Okej, vecina jih je zblojenih hipuzlov, eni pa samo obujajo ze skoraj izumrle tradicije, ki jih je krscanska kuga skoraj unicila ali vsaj absorbirala.
Saj nisem niti pricakoval, da bi razumel analogijo za ahmeninedzadom.
KDO MI, vosu zarukan??? Kaj kurac pa mas ti skupnega s folkom, ki se je tam motal okoli 5 jurjev let nazaj? Ok, mogoce mas kak gen od njih. Heh, jest mam tud nogoce kak gen od kakega megarazturaskega rimljana, jaka muda. Prekleta desnicarska bebavost ... zarad lastne inferiornosti in mensejebizma se je treba ves cas skrivat za "velikimi predniki", huh? Isti drek k naciji, k so fural svoj egotrip na nekih tevtonskih vitezih, da ne govorim o tem, da so ga metal na roke na skandinavsko cover verzijo slovanske mitologije .. hej, saj je tud vsak pofukan kalabrezzi vedu povedat, da je v zlahti s cesarji.
podn!!!
pizdumaternu, steje izkljucno samo to, kar SI, SAM, ne pa kaki dzeki so slucajno lomil podoben jezik kot ti 3000000 let nazaj .. |
no,sej...uni hipuzli so kul,mi pa ne...čeprav ne uni kamni ne kolo nima nobene veze s krščanstvom...
ej,miki,kolo je v lasti slovenskega muzeja...ej,beri...Slovenskega!!!!!
in kdo je pol sikfak?
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
Ivan Maček - Matija |
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V berlinskih muzejih najdes nefretete, ishtarina vrata, pergamon ...
Dej povej, a tista piscalka iz potocke zijalke dokazuje, da smo slovenci narod muskontarjev? |
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V berlinskih muzejih najdes nefretete, ishtarina vrata, pergamon ...
Dej povej, a tista piscalka iz potocke zijalke dokazuje, da smo slovenci narod muskontarjev? |
sam tist ni nemško,kolo je pa najdeno tu...v Sloveniji...
sploh si pa zgrešil v vsej svoji nestrpnosti point...jz sem se hotu pohecat da smo kle že od nekdaj radi hodil in vozil na pir,ti pa v luft...
Genske študije pa so pokazale še, da se genska slika v srednji Evropi, v zadnjih 20.000 letih, praktično ni spremenila, saj je v vsem tem dolgem času novih genov le 7 %.
buuuuuu
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Hja,prjatu,če bi ti jaz povedu kako je v Rusiji ,bi bil ti na drugi strani,bi bili naš sovražnik,te sedaj ne bi bilo...
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