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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

Na kratko: kocka je padla. Dolar je out.

Kaj naj recem? Novica? Niti ne, ker se je o povezovanju BRIC & OPECa susljalo zeleta in o ponavljajicih signalih zatona zahodnega imperija tudi .. verniki v VBZ so zamahovali z roko, kao levajzarske teorije zarote. Novo je mogoce le to, da o tem danes govori ze tako ugleden neodvisen medij, kot je independent.

Zanimiv se mi zdi tudi pogled na funt - to z zadrzevanjem padca dolarja razlozi marsikaj, med drugim tudi iracionalno napihovanje balonov, kot so bili RBS, LLoyds, HSBC - dobesedno baloni, kot akumulatorji zalode fiktivnega denarja, ki je prepreceval ekspanzijo evra.

Pizda ce do leta 2018 ne bo ene ornk vojne, pol ...

Citiram:
The demise of the dollar

In a graphic illustration of the new world order, Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia and France to stop using the US currency for oil trading

By Robert Fisk


In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.


Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

The plans, confirmed to The Independent by both Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong, may help to explain the sudden rise in gold prices, but it also augurs an extraordinary transition from dollar markets within nine years.

The Americans, who are aware the meetings have taken place – although they have not discovered the details – are sure to fight this international cabal which will include hitherto loyal allies Japan and the Gulf Arabs. Against the background to these currency meetings, Sun Bigan, China's former special envoy to the Middle East, has warned there is a risk of deepening divisions between China and the US over influence and oil in the Middle East. "Bilateral quarrels and clashes are unavoidable," he told the Asia and Africa Review. "We cannot lower vigilance against hostility in the Middle East over energy interests and security."

This sounds like a dangerous prediction of a future economic war between the US and China over Middle East oil – yet again turning the region's conflicts into a battle for great power supremacy. China uses more oil incrementally than the US because its growth is less energy efficient. The transitional currency in the move away from dollars, according to Chinese banking sources, may well be gold. An indication of the huge amounts involved can be gained from the wealth of Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar who together hold an estimated $2.1 trillion in dollar reserves.

The decline of American economic power linked to the current global recession was implicitly acknowledged by the World Bank president Robert Zoellick. "One of the legacies of this crisis may be a recognition of changed economic power relations," he said in Istanbul ahead of meetings this week of the IMF and World Bank. But it is China's extraordinary new financial power – along with past anger among oil-producing and oil-consuming nations at America's power to interfere in the international financial system – which has prompted the latest discussions involving the Gulf states.

Brazil has shown interest in collaborating in non-dollar oil payments, along with India. Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East.

China imports 60 per cent of its oil, much of it from the Middle East and Russia. The Chinese have oil production concessions in Iraq – blocked by the US until this year – and since 2008 have held an $8bn agreement with Iran to develop refining capacity and gas resources. China has oil deals in Sudan (where it has substituted for US interests) and has been negotiating for oil concessions with Libya, where all such contracts are joint ventures.

Furthermore, Chinese exports to the region now account for no fewer than 10 per cent of the imports of every country in the Middle East, including a huge range of products from cars to weapon systems, food, clothes, even dolls. In a clear sign of China's growing financial muscle, the president of the European Central Bank, Jean-Claude Trichet, yesterday pleaded with Beijing to let the yuan appreciate against a sliding dollar and, by extension, loosen China's reliance on US monetary policy, to help rebalance the world economy and ease upward pressure on the euro.

Ever since the Bretton Woods agreements – the accords after the Second World War which bequeathed the architecture for the modern international financial system – America's trading partners have been left to cope with the impact of Washington's control and, in more recent years, the hegemony of the dollar as the dominant global reserve currency.

The Chinese believe, for example, that the Americans persuaded Britain to stay out of the euro in order to prevent an earlier move away from the dollar. But Chinese banking sources say their discussions have gone too far to be blocked now. "The Russians will eventually bring in the rouble to the basket of currencies," a prominent Hong Kong broker told The Independent. "The Brits are stuck in the middle and will come into the euro. They have no choice because they won't be able to use the US dollar."

Chinese financial sources believe President Barack Obama is too busy fixing the US economy to concentrate on the extraordinary implications of the transition from the dollar in nine years' time. The current deadline for the currency transition is 2018.

The US discussed the trend briefly at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh; the Chinese Central Bank governor and other officials have been worrying aloud about the dollar for years. Their problem is that much of their national wealth is tied up in dollar assets.

"These plans will change the face of international financial transactions," one Chinese banker said. "America and Britain must be very worried. You will know how worried by the thunder of denials this news will generate."

Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq.


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http://www.professorfekete.com/articles%5CAEFPositionPaper7TheDonkeyInTheChinaShop.pdf --- THE DONKEY IN THE CHINA SHOP -- ja, ja ... Eni pač obvladajo zadeve... Še dobr, da nebodo nikol dobil Nibelčka...
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The ideology that drove millions of people into expensive lifestyles on low pay and easy credit is bust. But who will tell them?.....................................................................The Repo man.
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 18 Okt 2010 15:44    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

http://www.dnevnik.si/debate/komentarji/1042396066 --- "Po več kot stoletnem obdobju prevlade na področju porabe energije so morale ZDA primat na lestvici predati Kitajski. Po podatkih International Energy Asociation (EIA) je Kitajska v preteklem letu porabila za 2252 milijonov ton ekvivalentov surove nafte (oil-equivalent), s čimer je za štiri odstotke presegla porabo v ZDA. " ---- Ja, ja .... Nekako gre vse precej hitreje, kot smo si to predstavljali se pred cca dvema letoma...
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 19 Okt 2010 15:33    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

marmije je napisal/a:
http://www.dnevnik.si/debate/komentarji/1042396066 --- "Po več kot stoletnem obdobju prevlade na področju porabe energije so morale ZDA primat na lestvici predati Kitajski. Po podatkih International Energy Asociation (EIA) je Kitajska v preteklem letu porabila za 2252 milijonov ton ekvivalentov surove nafte (oil-equivalent), s čimer je za štiri odstotke presegla porabo v ZDA. " ---- Ja, ja .... Nekako gre vse precej hitreje, kot smo si to predstavljali se pred cca dvema letoma...


Jep BubaSan, se popolnoma strinjam.
Poleg tega mi je zanimivo je slediti trgu juzne Amerike ....... in premikom juzno od Paname.

nakoncprstukanu:
zahod in NATO pa tera dalje: spremeniti prepricanje naroda okrog kaspijskega bazena ..... KABOOM!
And win their minds!
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Pridružen/-a: 07.11. 2006, 18:21
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 19 Okt 2010 17:15    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

Veš, poet, svoj dolg?
Nimaš nič besed?
Kaj zagrinjaš se v molk?
Vrzi pesem v svet,
pesem za današnjo rabo,
vsi jo bomo povzeli za tabo!

Vem, o vem svoj dolg,
v prsih tu me žge,
naj se mi zemlja odpre,
bom zavijal kot volk...
Na vseh štirih bom stal vrh planine,
kričal in tulil med planine.

Vrh Mežaklje bom stal,
pesem svojo rjul,
Blegaš jo bo čul,
Krim odmev bo dal.
Na vse vetrove jo bom tresel,
eden jo bo na Pohorje nesel.

Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vkup, le vkup...
staro pravdo zdaj tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo.

Še bo kdaj pomlad,
še bo napočil zor,
tedaj volčji zbor pojde lovce klat.
Plani čez Savo,
plavaj čez Dravo,
zob za zob
in glavo za glavo
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Pa naj bo za kones se tale, ki ima malo sirsi pomen... Verjetno tudi, kar se tegale našega forumčka tiče... Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses,
And all the king's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
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PrispevekObjavljeno: 20 Okt 2010 00:44    Naslov sporočila: Odgovori s citatom

mimogrede, kitajci so se lih zdej spomnil dvigovat obrestne mere. juhej.
medtem, ko so usd,eu in gbp rekordno nizke. iq test: kam vlagati?
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V zlato ali srebro... Tudi, koruza bi bila kar v redu.... Tale zgodba, pa je zanimiva.... http://www.finance.si/292664/%A9erif-odrekel-pokornost-bankam --- Ava
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